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Tuesday, October 11, 2005

Chris Seay in Atlanta

Today I attended an event sponsored by McAfee School of Theology. The featured speaker was Ecclesia pastor, Chris Seay. The title of Chris' talk was "Understanding Emergent Congregational Life."

Both his message and approach were helpful for the assembled group of seminarians and pastors. The main point of his lecture was about living out the Gospel incarnationally in our respective communities.

Here are my (somewhat incogent) notes

Entering into incarnational community—Living a holistic gospel in a fragmented world
--Seeing God’s work everywhere//not such a harsh divide between sacred/secular
--Christianity is essentially about incarnation!
--Because the world is forever changing, traditions become a hindrance when they obviate incarnational ministry

--Primary enemy of the Gospel→consumerism
[we need to do what we do, not in order meet their “felt needs”, but because it is the right thing to do in our context to embody the Gospel missionally]
--At Ekklesia, they don’t care about their felt needs but about their real needs→love God and love your neighbor!
• Move people from consumers to co-creators
• “What the bleep do we know?”
Incarnation is ultimately about being dirty, we can’t live incarnationally without getting messy in other people’s lives
--modernity—knowledge, figuring it out
--postmodernity—beauty, mystery, spiritual

Scientific method for exegesis: observation:interpretation:application (by this we “propositionalize Christ”)
Lectionary is used so that the whole story is covered

Three ways of thinking:
• Linear (Romans)
• Circular (Ecclesiastes)
• Webthinking (spiderweb style)

Moving to a more eastern or Hebraic way of teaching
Tony Jones: “breaking the pastoral contract”
• We want them to leave asking questions, not thinking they had the answers (we want them to ask the right questions)
• Bruggemann—Prophetic imagination (painting a picture of the world and a picture of how the world should be and letting others live in that tension)

Ekklesia’s purpose
—to provoke people to relationship with God
Art and music are tools used to tell the story of God

posted by Jake at 10/11/2005 07:43:00 PM

3 Comments:

Blogger mark said...

it all comes back to brugg..-g-

ok..so its easier for us (and Catholics) but how are reformed Barthians dealing with..

"Seeing God’s work everywhere//not such a harsh divide between sacred/secular"

i mean..dont we all hear somehwat "general revelation" here..(ive heard Rob Bell say the same as Chris here)

9:18 PM  
Blogger Out Of Jersey said...

But what is more important? Being emergent or being Christian? The more I am reading Emergent teachings the more I am seeing use of rhetoric and vernacular passed off as ideas.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"modernity = knowledge, figuring it out; postmodernity = beauty, mystery, spiritual."

Definitely an oversimplification, but I agree with the premise that a sort of "dualism" between things "secular" and "sacred" has crippled a holistic and organic engagement with the culture; the mission of the Church is not merely to portray Christ to the culture or to find Christ in the culture... it is to BE Christ IN the culture.

P.S. Theofragen, I'm trying to connect my blog (which is fairly new) to other like-minded bloggers. Any way you can help in this would be appreciated.

1:18 PM  

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